{"id":6196,"date":"2017-03-15T06:26:42","date_gmt":"2017-03-15T04:26:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.georgebutunoiu.com\/blog\/?p=6196"},"modified":"2018-01-07T21:17:16","modified_gmt":"2018-01-07T21:17:16","slug":"cine-castiga-si-cine-pierde-din-lupta-cu-hr-ul","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.georgebutunoiu.com\/blog\/cine-castiga-si-cine-pierde-din-lupta-cu-hr-ul\/","title":{"rendered":"Cine castiga si cine pierde batalia cu fetele de la HR&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_5793\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a title=\"Fata de la HR\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.georgebutunoiu.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Recruterita-de-top.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5793\" class=\"wp-image-5793\" title=\"Fata de la HR\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.georgebutunoiu.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Recruterita-de-top.jpg\" alt=\"Fata de la HR\" width=\"200\" height=\"255\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.georgebutunoiu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Recruterita-de-top.jpg 403w, https:\/\/www.georgebutunoiu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Recruterita-de-top-236x300.jpg 236w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5793\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Partea adversa<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Am scris de o mie de ori ca rolul fetelor de la HR e sa vada, in primul rand, daca esti intreg la cap, nu cata meserie stii. Asta o fac altii, mai incolo, cand ajungi sa vorbesti cu sefii de departament sau cu cei care iti vor fi sefi directi. Dar nimeni nu m-a luat in serios, toti o tin, una si buna, cu cata experienta au si ce stiu ei sa faca. Cand intrati in lupta frontala cu HR-ul, poate ca ar fi bine sa treceti si pe la doctor inainte, sa va asigurati ca aveti rezistenta fizica si psihica necesara pentru o asemenea confruntare. Fiindca e un adversar redutabil, chiar daca fapturile acelea de la HR par atat de plapande si de neajutorate. Ca tot m-am apucat sa scriu despre riscurile luptei cu &#8220;sistemul&#8221; &#8211; vezi si <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.georgebutunoiu.com\/index.php\/2017\/03\/12\/au-refuzat-salarii-nedemne\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">articolul<\/a> precedent&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Omul care mi-a scris ce cititi mai jos are toate sansele sa gaseasca un job bun in Canada, sa aiba succes si chiar sa se realizeze profesional. Oare ce conluzii se pot trage de aici? O varianta ar fi cea trasa chiar de el, cum ca managerii romani sunt prosti, ca sa nu mai vorbim de fetele de la HR. Altele care ar putea sa fie? Astept cu multa nerabdare comentariile&#8230; \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p>Domnule George Butunoiu,<\/p>\n<p>Sunt in Canada de 6 luni si am luat si permisul de conducere.. Ca sa nu mai spuneti ca aveti nevoie de TALENTE.. Eu mi-am pierdut timpul prin Romania..\u00a0 Iar aici in Quebec sincer..inc anu am gasit ce trebuie dar voi gasi,<\/p>\n<p>Oricum RAUL facut de departamentele de HR din Firme, este ceva care nu se poate masura sau exprima in Cuvinte.<\/p>\n<p>Normal ca trebuie sa fie un RISC minim pentru INVESTITIA in HR. Dar cum sa stie o pitipoanca de la Relatii internationale sau psihologie,<\/p>\n<p>Sa vada daca un Inginer este bun sau nu\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p>Ele se bazeaza pe faptul ca \u2018\u2019CITESC\u2019\u2019 omul sa vada daca ascunde ceva, dupa cum se vede si in serialul LIE TO ME, nu este o stiinta buna exacta,<\/p>\n<p>Pentru ca poate Omul nu are job de 3 ani, si poate minte cu asta, dar poate ca are info si modul de lucru\u00a0incat sa produca mai mult decat poate altul. Adica poate ca e stresat care DRACI in ziua respectiva nu neaparat ca minte despre ceea ce STIE SA FACA&lt;<\/p>\n<p>Al doilea lucru\u00a0:\u00a0 Multi se gandesc la INVESTITIE. Bun am fost direct tehnic deci stiu f f bine despre ce este INVESTITIE si ce este CHELTUIALA.<\/p>\n<p>Voi faceti multe erori crezand ca cheltuielile cu HR sunt investie nu sunt\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Iar cele cu PROBLEMELE legale, inchipuite sau nu sa apara DACA cumva o angajare nu merge, iarasi palesc in comparatie cu o crestere de productivitate de 20% minim.<\/p>\n<p>Dar cei din HR nu mai stiti sa aveti incredere in OAMENI.<\/p>\n<p>Acuma pe buna dreptate pentru ca si OAMENII sunt afurisiti si smecheri si hoti multi din ei si vin numai pentur bani,<\/p>\n<p>DAR\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Departamentele de HR adica MEDIUL HR, isi are candidatii pe care ii merita\u00a0!! Adica&#8230;VOI ati creat aceasta masa de oameni blazati!<\/p>\n<p>Cum e posibil o PIZDA scuze cuvinatul vulgar (dar am pierdut 11 de ani..din cauza HR) expresia de 24 de ani\u2026(si l-a fel as spune si daca as fi avut o fata\u00a0! pentur ca fata mea nu cred sper..sa nu fie asa o pizda ca astea\u00a0!)<\/p>\n<p>Deci o pizda de 23 \u2013 24 de ani, sa iti spuna tie ca daca ai stat acolo 6 luni si dincolo pina in 2 ani..ca schimbi repede locul de munca, sau ca NU POT sa tin un loc d emunca\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p>CAND..voi cei din HR sau ele\u2026schimba dupa 7- maxim 16 luni locul de munca\u00a0! Sa vedeti ce MOBILITATE est ein HR\u00a0! dar la ele nu e nestatornicie Nuuuuuu \u2026dar ce e\u00a0? Experienta\u00a0? ok la noi de ce nu se aplica la fel\u00a0? ca tot aia e\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Asta e ca si cum o intrebi pe una care\u00a0 a fost casatorita cu 5 barbati, si ii spui ca nu poate sa ii tina\u00a0! Dar poate ca EA a divortat de ei\u00a0? Mai stii\u00a0? ca poate erau toti gelosi..<\/p>\n<p>DAR mai este ceva care trebuie sa va intre BINE IN CAP la HR\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Voi nu puneti si sa va puneti retoric intrebarea\u00a0: OK\u00a0! A avut mult joburi..din vairi motive..ca NU STITI nu va mai prefaceti ca presupuneti dar nu stiti viata unui OM ce incurcata poate sa fie\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Si nu va ganditi la LEGUME \u2026<\/p>\n<p>Deci..ok..am avut 21 de joburi..bun..nu am stat mull BUUN de acord\u2026dar nu va intrebati\u00a0: Omul asta a vazut 21 de firme diferite a avut 21 de sefi diferiti\u00a0! deci oricat de cretin si retardat este are mai multa experienta decat ..x sau y\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Deci\u00a0?\u00a0 Este normal ca un asemenea OM si daca mai stii ca a terinat si Automatica cu 9.66 atunci te gandesti , mai PROST nu e\u2026atunci e clar ca are experienta ceva a invatat.<\/p>\n<p>Atunci te intreb eu pe tine, ca OM..unul ca mine crezi ca \u2026ii ia cat timp\u00a0????? sa isi dea seama daca jobul ala e pentru el sau nu\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p>Iti spun eu in maxim 1 luna sau chiar mai repede, 3 saptamini iti dati seama\u2026la mine eu pot a imi dua seama in 24-48 de ore de lucru efectiv,<\/p>\n<p>Bun\u00a0! Ce am spus eu aici sau ce NU am spus aici\u2026am spus 24-48 de ore de LUCRU de MUNCA efectiva in post\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>NUUUU 48 DE ORE DE INTERVIURI\u00a0!!!! OAMENI BUNI\u00a0!!!<\/p>\n<p>EU AM ANGAJAT PERSONAL 24 DE OAMENI..SI AM DAT AFARA..OAMENI PE CARE NU II STIAM CU 3 LUNI INAINTE DECI PRACTIC I-AM REEVALAUT CA SI CUM II ANGAJAM (DOAR CA I-AM CONCEDIAT)<\/p>\n<p>45+ DE OAMENI..<\/p>\n<p>OK? CUM AM FACUT ASTA?<\/p>\n<p>SUCCES!<\/p>\n<p>Romani!<\/p>\n<p>SA NU VA MAI AUD CA NU GASITI TALENTE, CA NU STITI SA LE EVALUATI\u00a0! VOI EVALUATI LEGUME\u00a0! NU TALENTE\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>IN ROMANIA HR-UL ATI INTORS TARA CU CURUL IN SUS\u00a0! DE AIA O SA VEDETI ACUMA AVETI SI MAI MULTE PROBLEME SA ANAGJATI LUME DE CALITATE..<\/p>\n<p>PENTRU CEI PE CAR EI-ATI ANGAJAT DE ANI DE ZILE..10-15 ANI..ACUM AU FORMAT CE\u00a0??? AU FORMAT\u00a0: CULTURA FIRMELOR\u00a0!!<\/p>\n<p>ACUMA CEI NOI NU MAI \u00ab\u00a0FIT IN\u00ab PENTRU CA DACA VINE UNUL SERIOS DESTEPT NU MAI \u2018\u2019FIT IN\u2018\u2019 CU LEGUMELE \u2026CARE ACUMA SUNT MAJORITARE\u2026<\/p>\n<p>ASTA E..EFECTUL SI ACUMA VA\u2026.BITE IN THE ASS..<\/p>\n<p>DACA DORITI MAI MULTE INFORMATII DE LA UNUL CARE AM AVUT PESTE 21 DE JONURI IN 4 TARI..<\/p>\n<p>SI AM CRESCUT PRODUCTIVITATEA ********* (PUTETI VERIFICA CU **********..SIGUR AVETI CELULARUL DACA NU IL AVETI VI-L DAU EU: ********** CARE A FOST CEO *********** IN 2008-2009 SI ESTE UNUL DIN PATRONI\u00a0!)..DECI<\/p>\n<p>CELL MEU ESTE\u00a0: ************ AM SI WHATSAPP..<\/p>\n<p>SI PUTEM VORBI..SA VEDETI MANAGERII DIN ROMANIA &#8230;CU PUTINEEEEEEEEEE EXCEPTII SUNT VARZAAA..<\/p>\n<p>EU SUNT LA BAZA INGINER SI I-AM DAT CLASA LU ************* CARE NU ERA PROST..TOTUSI..PE MARKETING..SI MAAGEMENT..<\/p>\n<p>PENTRU CA EU CE AM INVATAT AM INVATAT DE LA MANAGERI AMERICANI..I-AM STUDIAT CNAD MA LUCRAT (NU NUMAI DIN CARTI) IN SUA PENTRU 7 ANI JUMATE.<\/p>\n<p>Mersi&#8230;bagatul pulii este in HR si femeile si pitipoancele si toti ceilalti prsti..<\/p>\n<p>Normal ca pe dumnavoastra va consider altfel un pic am vizionat si..inteviurile..<\/p>\n<p>Si TOCMAI de aceea va scriu\u00a0! ca poate spuneti la TV\u00a0! si formati un pic o alta opinie\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>NU va dati seama\u00a0!! SINCER unbelievable cum spune AMERICANU\u2019 cand de cu susul in jos a ajuns mediul din Multi nationale&#8230;si nu numai in Romania..<\/p>\n<p>Vad si aici..dar mai ales in Romania\u2026<\/p>\n<p>ATENTIE mare la ce mai angajati.. nu stiu daca ati auzit de unul **** si nu stiu cum a fost manager tehnic la ******** dupa ce am plecat eu,<\/p>\n<p>DA a stat acolo si a luat salariu 3 ani de zile\u00a0!!<\/p>\n<p>Eu stiu de la oamenii mei din interior\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>El a reusit datorita oamneilor pe care i-am format si in POFIDA LUI! Adica in POFIDA faptului ca era un bambilici&#8230;********** si altii care pe urma de BLAZARE au plecat\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Formati de mine\u00a0!!! Mi-au spus ce au facut..<\/p>\n<p>Un dezastru si sunt mangeri din astia prin..Romania o multime\u00a0!!<\/p>\n<p>DACA VRETI SA COLABORAM..PUTETI SA MI DATI MIE impreuna SA LE PUNA INTREBARI DIRECTE\u00a0! SI LA OBIECT PRIN SKYPE\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>INTREBARILE SUN BANAL DE SIMPLE CA LA COPII..DAR .. O SA VEDETI CA DIN MAXIM\u00a0! 5 INTREBARI\u00a0! MAXIM 10! POFTIM!<\/p>\n<p>VA SPUN C E DE CAPUL LOR! LE DAU MASCA JOS IMEDIAT!<\/p>\n<p>Aaa si am scris si o carte intre timp cretiniiilor!!!!!\u00a0 https:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Money-*****-ebook\/dp\/*****<\/p>\n<p>Imi bag pulaaaaaaa in Romania\u00a0!!!!!! cu HR vostru cu tot!<\/p>\n<p>CELL MEU ESTE\u00a0: ************<\/p>\n<p>************* 43 DE ANI<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800080;\"><strong>Si cu 4 ani in urma:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;GOOD LUCK!<\/p>\n<p>Eu astept viza de QUEBEC! Si in bag PULA in managementul romanesc!<\/p>\n<p>O tara de idioti! AM venit cu atatea idei&#8230;si pe TOATE le-au executat prost!<\/p>\n<p>Nu ai cu cine domnle&#8217;..:) sunt idioti!<\/p>\n<p>*********<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800080;\"><strong>Si u 10 ani in urma:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Buna ziua,<\/p>\n<p>Dumneavoastra realizati ca eu am fost Manager Tehnic la ********* unde am crescut productivitate DOAR cu 65% si am pregatire in Automatizari.?<\/p>\n<p>In fine..imi vine sa rad&#8230;asa ca daca imi vine sa rad eu RAD: HA HA HA!!<\/p>\n<p>********<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Am scris de o mie de ori ca rolul fetelor de la HR e sa vada, in primul rand, daca esti intreg la cap, nu cata meserie stii. Asta o fac altii, mai incolo, cand ajungi sa vorbesti cu sefii de departament sau cu cei care iti vor fi sefi directi. 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